Monday, July 31, 2023

"Weak" Speech and Gender Stereotypes

A few years ago I read an article by a female reporter who heard somewhere that journalists quote men much more often than women. So she checked found that this was true of her own work. She resolved to stop doing this and tried hard to achieve equality, but failed; even when she was able to quote equal numbers of men and women in her pieces, the editors always cut out many of the statements by women. Because, she said, men are just more quotable according to the standards of modern journalism. Which brings me to this NY Times piece by Adam Grant about women and "weak speech."

“Stop using weak language.” If you’re a woman, you’ve probably gotten this advice from a mentor, a coach or a teacher. If you want to be heard, use more forceful language. If you want a raise or a promotion, demand it. As the saying goes, nice girls don’t get the corner office.

Weak speech means peppering your discourse 

with disclaimers (I’m no expert, but …), hedges (sort of, kind of), and tag questions (right? wouldn’t you say?).

Or always saying, "in my opinion," "I think", etc. Which is way the reporter whose name I have forgotten quoted men more often even when she tried not to; all those disclaimers make a statement weaker and less interesting for a short segment on the news. On the news, you want people to take bold, simple stands, not qualify themselves or explain. Explanation and nuance are boring.

Incidentally I have noticed that this is true of the subjects Tyler Cowen interviews for Marginal Revolutions. All of these are really elite people, CEOs and authors of prize-winning books, but the women still qualify their speech a lot more than the men do. I have also noticed that the trans women of my acquaintance are still completely masculine in this regard.

Anyway, Grant's piece is an argument, backed up by a bunch of studies, that women speak this way because this is what actually works for women:

It turns out that women who use weak language when they ask for raises are more likely to get them. In one experiment, experienced managers watched videos of people negotiating for higher pay and weighed in on whether the request should be granted. The participants were more willing to support a salary bump for women — and said they would be more eager to work with them — if the request sounded tentative: “I don’t know how typical it is for people at my level to negotiate,” they said, following a script, “but I’m hopeful you’ll see my skill at negotiating as something important that I bring to the job.” By using a disclaimer (“I don’t know …”) and a hedge “(I hope …”), the women reinforced the supervisor’s authority and avoided the impression of arrogance. For the men who asked for a raise, however, weak language neither helped nor hurt. No one was fazed if they just came out and demanded more money.

In the United States and in many cultures, gender stereotypes still hold that men should be dominant and assertive, while women should be kind and caring. When women violate these stereotypes, they often get punished. In a meta-analysis of dozens of studies, when women asserted their ideas, made direct requests and advocated for themselves, they were judged as less hirable. Although they were seen as equally competent, they were liked less than men who engaged in the exact same behaviors.

New evidence reveals that it’s not ambition per se that women are being penalized for. . . . The problem arises if people perceive them to be forceful, controlling, commanding and outspoken. These are qualities for which men are regularly given a pass, but they put women at risk of being disliked and denied for leadership roles. (Not surprisingly, the backlash is even stronger when a woman is Black). Instead of being judged just on their performance, they are dinged for their personality. Overbearing. Too abrasive. Sharp elbows.

Grant does the performative thing in blaming this on men – "It’s outrageous that women have to tame their tongues to protect fragile male egos" – but the studies he cites don't support that; they find that the bad reaction to pushy women is just as prevalent among women as among men.

It seems that as women achieve dominance in certain fields of business, like publishing, it hasn't happened because women have become more masculine; it has happened because the habits of aggressive men have become less associated with leadership.

7 comments:

  1. It seems to me that what's described in these articles as a "feminine" way of being could also be described as simply respecting the virtues of humility and truth. I would emphasize the latter point. Knowing what you actually know, and knowing and admitting what you don't know, are good and, more important, truthful things.

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  2. Some people say, when called on their blunt statements, "of course that's just my opinion; what else could I be offering?" There are circumstances in which you might need to qualify that, for example, you have now switched from reciting facts to offering an opinion based on them. But a lot of people feel that if you say, "the discourse around race in the US is awful," then it's obvious that's just your opinion and there's no reasons to say so.

    And that's before we get into "uptalk," pronouncing ordinary statements as if they were questions, a habit pioneered by middle school girls and now used my many grown women.

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  4. My point, really, is to defend my own style, which I lard with hedges and qualifications and "it seems to me"s and so forth. They are sincere, but I also love it, and reread my own posts for pleasure. So, to an extent (see?), my qualified way of speaking reflects and, especially, feeds my own narcissism. I also like it when others speak or write that way. May it flourish and spread.

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  5. I occurs to me that one of the advantages of either or both styles is that, if a person with that style expresses themselves in the other, that statement becomes that much more noteworthy and emphatic by the difference.

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  6. Of course, people with lots of confidence get more done in the world, and can lead. But I still defend the alternate style. I think it does have an aspect of serving the truth--the truth being so very, very hard to find.

    Perhaps it comes down to that idea that human groups need Scott Alexander's "inter-individual variation." That stylistic/behavioral variety gives human groups great flexibility and power. And yet it is so very difficult to manage. And one may lament that American bosses and newspaper editors so often fall for the confident style, instead of giving the other some of its due.

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  7. Grant does the performative thing in blaming this on men – "It’s outrageous that women have to tame their tongues to protect fragile male egos" – but the studies he cites don't support that; they find that the bad reaction to pushy women is just as prevalent among women as among men.

    And peasants used to chastise other peasants for not doing as the nobles expected of them. And slaves used to chastise other slaves for not doing as their masters expected of them. That doesn't mean that serfdom or slavery were somehow the products of serfs and slaves!

    People who are being systemically victimized are routinely conditioned to help support their own victimization. Go talk to some domestic abuse victims about how much they blamed themselves for the violence their abusers inflicted on them or other family members. Or go read about women and children whose husbands and fathers would beat them and shout "If you didn't make me so angry, I wouldn't have to hit you!" - and how they came to genuinely believe it, and would even treat their fellows victims (children, siblings, etc) badly if the caught them committing a "transgression". "Why did you go and make him angry?"; "Don't you dare call the police, it'll just make things worse!"

    Women react badly to other women speaking confidently because under an unjust patriarchal system, it's in their own best interest to do so. By chastising their fellow women, they demonstrate their subservience to the men, and thus look better by comparison, in the hopes of receiving better treatment.

    It's a form of the Prisoner's Dilemma - from the standpoint of collective rationality, if all women cooperated to always resist the patriarchy's unjust treatment, the net benefit for all women would be far superior; but from the standpoint of individual rationality, betraying one's fellow women in such a situation is the path to the greatest benefit for oneself.

    In short, if you actually want that raise at work, then you ask for it meekly and shout down other women who ask for it confidently as a display of your subservience. Not because you think women -shouldn't- speak confidently, but purely because you're a victim of the system, and by playing the game the way the game masters want you to, you can be less of a victim.

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