tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post6327378073743808535..comments2024-03-28T00:11:33.489-04:00Comments on bensozia: Left-Wing Nationalism in 20th-Century BritainJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01037215533094998996noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-87232766801991503322019-09-07T22:25:11.245-04:002019-09-07T22:25:11.245-04:00@John
True, but isn't that easily attributeab...@John<br /><br />True, but isn't that easily attributeable to compromise deals and the cost of doing business? They want to institute sweeping healthcare reform, so to help get the opposition to play ball they agree to allow this, that, or the other thing in exchange? Things like that?G. Verlorennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-81625861838036628742019-09-07T07:45:44.311-04:002019-09-07T07:45:44.311-04:00@G - I'm sure you're at least partly right...@G - I'm sure you're at least partly right about the rhetoric, but there were actual measures involved, too, like high tariffs on imported cars, motorcycles, and appliances, strict limits on the export of capital, and a refusal to join the European Common Market for its first 20 years.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01037215533094998996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-62668237855879939792019-09-06T19:05:34.598-04:002019-09-06T19:05:34.598-04:00It strikes me that this might have all simply been...It strikes me that this might have all simply been a ploy to get people to more readily accept policies and decisions that they would have rejected under a different label.<br /><br />Consider that in 1951, Upton Sinclair wrote:<br /><br /><i>"The American People will take Socialism, but they won't take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to "End Poverty in California" I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front attack, it is much better to out-flank them."</i><br /><br />Obviously he was commenting on America and not Britain, but the general sentiment surely still applies. It's no secret that "Socialism" has been a dirty word for over a century, with people having been conditioned to reflexively reject anything bearing the label, without stopping to consider the actual content of anything.<br /><br />If post-war Liberals wanted to get their chosen agenda accepted in a country where full blown Fascists still had a shocking degree of influence (see Oswald Mosley et al.), then how better to do that than to dress it in the trappings of Nationalism?G. Verlorennoreply@blogger.com