tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post2793970553658138519..comments2024-03-28T18:32:05.933-04:00Comments on bensozia: Violence at ÇatalhöyükJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01037215533094998996noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-17147977596207109032019-06-21T18:25:05.894-04:002019-06-21T18:25:05.894-04:00@David -- no, no public spaces have been found in ...@David -- no, no public spaces have been found in the town. If they had large group rituals they must have been held outside, and there isn't any evidence of that. On the other hand most of the inhabitants must have been buried outside the walls, or whatever was done to them, so something clearly happened out there.<br /><br />The main mound was occupied for about 1200 years; there are 15 levels of houses, each occupied for 75-100 years before it was cleaned out, torn down, and another one built on top of the rubble.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01037215533094998996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-81664792946887056612019-06-21T14:01:40.169-04:002019-06-21T14:01:40.169-04:00"About 25% of the 95 examined skulls showed h..."About 25% of the 95 examined skulls showed healed injuries made by small spherical projectiles, probably a clay ball flung by a slingshot."<br /><br />There must be some translational issues going on, as slingshots are a modern development, requiring rubber or similar. I assume they mean slings instead.G. Verlorennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-84505354052663697472019-06-21T12:19:33.234-04:002019-06-21T12:19:33.234-04:00Everything you say here makes good sense to me, ba...Everything you say here makes good sense to me, based in part on the overall emphasis on issues of identity and culture over practical reason. I'm struck by the similarities and differences between CH and the Pueblo societies. Similarities include the importance of clan rites and clan secrets, embodied in restricted places of worship, and the prevalence of violence (which, in the case of the Pueblos, can be documented both between and within settlements), with agglomeration seemingly driven by the needs of defense but with those same needs not leading to the construction of fortifications as such.<br /><br />The main difference I'm struck by is that CH seems to have lasted and lasted--a millennium of continuous settlement, according to what you've written. Many Pueblos settlements seem to last no more than a century (with notable longer-lasting exceptions). Also--CH seems to have no public ritual space--or have I misinterpreted?--and it *seems* to stand as a solitary settlement in its region. What evidence if any do we have of other similar settlements around it, at the same time?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14456987412710878404noreply@blogger.com