tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post6935086691998661941..comments2024-03-28T18:32:05.933-04:00Comments on bensozia: Forgive?Johnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01037215533094998996noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-8098968987002593432019-02-21T15:43:00.608-05:002019-02-21T15:43:00.608-05:00Let's say she gets back in. Does she fully un...Let's say she gets back in. Does she fully understand what's in store for her? Possible criminal charges and detention (perhaps many, many years), few friends, suspicious neighbors, FBI and local and state police watching, snooping, and possibly entrapping her; death threats; bullying; harassment, etc. She will always have to be careful who she speaks to and associates with. <br /><br />Or maybe a university will hire her. (That's the snark in me.)Shadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05353532874773316117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-61560339804311321242019-02-21T07:51:50.684-05:002019-02-21T07:51:50.684-05:00@David - as you thought, the State Department has ...@David - as you thought, the State Department has dredged up a reason to avoid re-admitting one of the women in the Times story: although she was born in the US her father entered the country as a diplomat, and children of diplomats do not get birthright citizenship.<br /><br />@G - it's probably true that we would never have forgiven an American who flew to Germany to join the Wehrmacht. But that doesn't mean it might not have been the right thing to do.<br /><br />Much American thinking about Islamic extremism is based on the premise that the conflict must go on forever, or at least until there are no more Islamic extremists. My focus is on how to bring the conflict to an end.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01037215533094998996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-87330796871560830442019-02-20T12:46:45.787-05:002019-02-20T12:46:45.787-05:00"I suppose there is a danger that some remain..."I suppose there is a danger that some remain faithful, but given how comprehensively the Islamic State has been defeated I don't see them as a threat."<br /><br />If an American citizen had gone to the lengths of flying to Germany and joining the Wehrmacht or the SS, we would never have forgiven them if, when Berlin fell, they came crawling back with pathetic excuses about having made a mistake.<br /><br />You don't "accidentally" fly to a warzone and join up with a faction of religious extremists who are infamous for decapitating people. It's not a mistake, it's a conscious choice. These people were totally on board with supporting murderers and torturers, if not becoming murderers and torturers themselves.<br /><br />They deserve no pity. Their victims certainly didn't get any.G. Verlorennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8304928500646903522.post-47933286821587311802019-02-20T12:29:20.606-05:002019-02-20T12:29:20.606-05:00I don't disagree with you in principle, but wh...I don't disagree with you in principle, but what you describe is not going to be the way this issue is decided. If Democrats start backing repatriation for ex-ISIS, the result will be tweats and such from the heartland about how liberals "care more about a bunch of terrorists than about people like me" and Trump will have a field day.<br /><br />Plus, the immigration bureaucracy will mount the fiercest possible resistance, and can one blame them? Say they repatriate 200, and ONE of them reverts to ISIS ideology. A lot of bureaucrats will have their careers ruined over that one person.Davidnoreply@blogger.com